The day that ATSIC wound up was a personally a sad day because
I was actually with three of the young men who found themselves 
in a position at the end of the day when they had  
their phones turned off, no one made arrangements for them 
to travel home that night and I just thought it's typical of a lot of services
and a lot of programs that are implemented  
for Aboriginal people. No sooner are they set up, they don't actually
have time to become effective. 
And what the government, this is how I personally feel, that the 
government has a very short implementation phase 
and it's too short sometimes for an organisation or a program to be effective.